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queenshulamit reminded me of the existence of TiA and grrrrrrrrrrr
My brother is pretty severely autistic and we say those exact same things to him when we are teaching him about conversation skills. He might prefer to pace around while flapping his hands and humming but no typically developing person will talk to him if he does that.
this is NOT TRUE. in my experience if you pace around while flapping your hands and humming typically developing people will not only talk to you but think you are VERY CUTE
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guys
Bernie Sanders is ON YOUR SIDE
you cannot literally shout over the man and then accuse him of not speaking up for you
slartibartfastibast said: “He’s just some old white guy. Jews are white now, and therefore have never ever been victims of racism. Also, some people just like to get mad at shit. Probably a sadism thing. Maybe we should stop encouraging them.”
I want to stop encouraging them, but it’s really hard when this stuff has real-world implications. We can’t claim this shoddy state of discourse is just an online thing anymore.
it just
it really burns me up because Sanders IS 100% ON THE SIDE OF RACIAL JUSTICE. Quoth the man verbatim: “Black people are dying in this country because we have a criminal justice system which is out of control[.]” That is more than just about any other politician is willing to say. But because he doesn’t know the right buzzwords, because he came of age in an era where organizing was different, more inclusive, less steeped in toxic identity politics, he’s Public Enemy #1. These people do not care what he actually believes. They care about his ability to hit all the right identity politics keys.
What really exemplifies some of the issues with this is that the protesters started booing O’Malley for saying “all lives matter.”
He probably thought he was saying something like “I care about everyone and want our justice system to stop hurting people”, but now that “all lives matter” has been added to the bingo board as being Actually Racist, he’s getting trashed for wanting to help.
This entire incident shows a very disturbing trend of listening to people in only the most superficial way: If they say the right buzzwords, they’re okay. If they say anything that sounds like the arguments on your bingo board, they’re the enemy and must be attacked in some way.
In the end, this makes the language a person uses much more important than the actual meaning of their words and helps sustain a culture of yelling at people over just using the wrong words.
I never feel like I am expressing myself correctly, so I find that sort of behavior worrying.
Mm. On one hand, I agree with a lot of these critiques on a meta-level, and on the other hand I feel like disruptive protests of political candidates can be a useful tactic. But it’s not about what Bernie Sanders says or doesn’t say. It’s about using the media’s tendency to report horse-race stuff (”Bernie Sanders RESPONDED POORLY TO THIS PROTEST! What will this do to his primary chances?”) to raise awareness of the issue you’re protesting.
(via taymonbeal)
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e8u:
the amount of time my brain spends going “I AM EXERCISING MALE PRIVILEGE OVER MY CISGENDER HETEROSEXUAL MALE BOYFRIEND”
Kiki stop, you’re feministing too hard.
I would prefer it if antifeminists not use my mental health issues to score points against feminism.
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Is there a way to identify as opposed to the modern theorization of oppression and it's abuses. (i.e that male privilege/rape culture/capitalism is an access of oppression!) without implying that I think men don't generically hold more power over women or that white's don't get tons of benefits over blacks or that we aren't godawful towards the poor. I'm not comfortable calling myself a Feminist if I disagree with a lot of the intellectual tradition and viscerally dislike it’s hackery.
Anonymous
(the prison industrial complex has a disproportionately large impact on men, affirmative action does seem to specifically hurt poor “uninteresting” white kids who didn’t get special advantages at least at very top schools, Not all X is a terrible meme, Clickbait or tabloids do not become laudable when they respect Feminist cultural shibboleths). The type of liberal who leftist hate seems like a reasonable term, but I’m having trouble coming up with a term which won’t immediately be interpreted as “I hate Women and think they’re inferior and believe dead black kids had it coming”. The reason this is annoying is that the Greater SJ sphere seems like the only place in my or adjacent social circles where disagreeing with the hackery will be taken as a moral judgement. I dislike Liberal and conservative hacks too, but in this case it’s bad.
no, no, no. don’t you DARE call yourself “the kind of liberal leftists hate”, I FIND THE LEFTIST CONCEPT OF LIBERAL TO BE INCREDIBLY USEFUL AND POINT TO A THING WHICH EXISTS AND “THE KIND OF LIBERAL LEFTISTS HATE” IS MY ONLY WAY OF DISAMBIGUATING WHICH SENSE OF ‘LIBERAL’ I MEAN AND IF YOU TURN THAT INTO A SYNONYM INTO ‘ANTI-SJ’ I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL GO INTO YOUR HOUSE AND CLOSE ALL YOUR CABINETS ON YOUR HEAD
as for your actual question, idk, anti-sj liberal?
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my favorite Strange LW Antifeminist belief is that calling people fat ugly autistic virgins is not just characteristic of feminism but so characteristic of feminism that when feminists get called fat ugly autistic virgins it is Feminists Having Their Tools Used Against Them
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You're a gender studies major, right? You could be Athena, Apollo, Vulcan, and Hermes all wrapped up in one package and you'd still be unemployable. Your fellows, with all their good intentions(?), have seen to that with their unbridled (and largely arbitrary) shit disturbing. Imagine being a H.R. drone sifting through applications. Could there be any redder flag than a gender studies degree? For big corps your a bad bet, for small companies you're a hydrogen dirigible. Oh, the humanities. :/ Anonymous
I, uh, admittedly I’ve never been an HR drone, but I kind of think the usual opinion on gender studies degrees is “easy degree, probably not that bright”, not “EEEEVIL SJW”. I’m pretty sure knowledge of the existence of evil SJWs is pretty much reserved to people who spend too much time online.
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Not the anon from earlier: all this nuance from sj people is suspicious! Especially on tumblr, SJ splits like fuck on almost everything, where everyone is either a perfect persecuted cinnamon roll too good for this world, or else an evil oppressor who deserves to die and is incapable of suffering. And then suddenly, there's nuance about THIS? It sounds like sj people don't REALLY want to condemn murder-censorship, bc when THEY condemn something, it sounds a lot more shouty and black-and-white. Anonymous
I mean, I guess you personally do an exceptionally good job of being nuanced, for a social justice person. But the same crowd that’s like “white girls in feather headdresses are literal human scum and deserve DEATH” is like “politically-motivated murder, yes, I see why they did that but I don’t agree” and it’s annoyingly… disorienting? Actually, I need to clarify that last ask. I should not have said you were “good at nuance, for a social justice person”. You are, but the connotation is all wrong. I should have said you are “good at nuance, ESPECIALLY for a social justice person.” I’m sorry if you spent any time feeling concerned that you’re not good at nuance because you are good at nuance, for any human, at all, not just when compared to the completely nuance-free culture in certain parts of tumblr SJ.
I wish people would stop complimenting me when they disagree with me, it comes off as forced teaming.
I am somewhat confused about why you’re objecting to their nuance, then, as opposed to all their non-nuance. It seems like the nuance is the behavior you ought to approve of, not to characterize as suspicious and annoying.
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I've noticed that SJ tends to fall flat on its face for me when it accuses people of viewing [group] in [way] that initially seems awful, because it makes me think of a double standard, but then I think a little harder and realize that it's completely harmless if there's no double standard and EVERYONE'S viewed in [way]. For example, there's nothing wrong with viewing women as resources, or objects, or etc, if you view men the same way - which I do. Anonymous
…yes there is? what kind of bullshit is this
“you see, I behave in an unethical way to EVERYONE, which is not entirely unlike being ethical”
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for the record: “aka #AllCisgenders” is clearly hyperbole (note hashtag, which usually signals that the sentence is not intended to be taken literally)
I try not to use this sort of hyperbole on my tumblr as a deliberate accessibility choice, because a significant number of my followers are bad at non-literal statements
however, I am not opposed to hyperbole in principle (…as you could probably see looking at my chatlogs for the past couple days, given the thing with my dad), I think it is a mistake to demand that all writing be maximally accessible, and I am not going to refuse to reblog things that use rhetorical devices I wouldn’t use
re: Your post on the other thread: Does tumblr really notify the OP whenever anyone reblogs a post regardless of who they reblog it from? I had somehow acquired the (apparently incorrect) impression that it only notified the person it was reblogged from. How does this not completely destroy the usability of tumblr notifications for anyone who makes a highly-reblogged post, quite independent of what (if anything) the rebloggers are saying? Or is tumblr (the platform) really just that terrible?
Thanks for the info, in any event. That certainly makes the speed with which OP reacted to my reply rather less mysterious.
If I made a “dating is hard for people like me” post, and someone reblogged it with an accusation that its substance was full of male entitlement, then yeah, I’d be pissed. On the other hand, if I made a post like that with a few offhand remarks about “#AllWomen” or “literally all neurotypicals” and someone complained about that, without attacking the rest of the post, I’d see that as perfectly reasonable.
re: this post: I’m not a huge fan of hyperbole in general (and I appreciate both your attempts to avoid it and your clarification here), but I don’t generally regard it as a huge deal (and am undoubtedly guilty of it myself of occasion). But I think that anti-outgroup hyberbole (especially when it’s exaggerating homogeneity of bad characteristics) has a particular badness, beyond whatever badness hyperbole has in general, just as anti-outgroup clickbait has a particular badness beyond whatever badness clickbait in general has. And I think this is especially true when outgroup membership is immutable.
On reblogging: I certainly don’t think that there’s anything unreasonable about reblogging something that uses morally dubious[1] hyperbole with a little note like “has some kinda problematic rhetoric, but the content is very useful,” but doing it without that really weirds me out. Maybe this is a tumblr norm that I’m not familiar with, that reblogging without comment does not imply anything beyond “I liked something about some part of this post,” but then that just makes the “all you people reblogging [thing that is maybe mildly offensive] are worse than Satan”–type drama I occasionally run across even weirder.
[1] Probably somewhat less so from your viewpoint than mine, but even from a utilitarian perspective, are the expected utilons gained by people feeling free to say negative things about “literally all cis feminists” in a public forum really greater than the expected utilons lost from increased thinking about cis feminists as a hostile outgroup, even before we get to possible impacts on cis feminists (or cis people in general who don’t parse the nuance of hashtags well, for that matter)?
Yes, Tumblr notifies the OP of every note you make on their post. Authors of popular posts typically get third-party notification-hiding apps.
I think the thing you’re missing is that it is a very common strategy among bullies to make people think that the way the bully is hurting them is deserved, or the way things have to be. And the way you get out of that, for a lot of people, is to say “no, I don’t deserve this, this is not the way things have to be, this is only happening because you’re a fucking asshole.” And, well, that’s anger.
The post I reblogged is about how to change the way you move, walk, sit, stand so that people don’t misgender you or harass you. I think we can all agree that it is not something anyone deserves to have to change their fundamental way of movement so other people don’t bully them. And what naturally happens to a lot of people– because we live in a transphobic society– is that they go “well, it’s my fault if people harass me, I didn’t pass well enough.”
And fuck that. The solution there is anger. It’s going “I have to change morally neutral things about myself because you will hurt me if I don’t, but that’s wrong and you people are dickheads.” And hyperbole is a useful tool there.
Like… if you want trans women to stop thinking of cis feminists as a hostile outgroup, maybe cis feminists should stop being hostile to trans women all the time. Just a thought.
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for the record: “aka #AllCisgenders” is clearly hyperbole (note hashtag, which usually signals that the sentence is not intended to be taken literally)
I try not to use this sort of hyperbole on my tumblr as a deliberate accessibility choice, because a significant number of my followers are bad at non-literal statements
however, I am not opposed to hyperbole in principle (…as you could probably see looking at my chatlogs for the past couple days, given the thing with my dad), I think it is a mistake to demand that all writing be maximally accessible, and I am not going to refuse to reblog things that use rhetorical devices I wouldn’t use